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    NC MLPA ... let the games begin

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    NRDC, Sierra Club, Say Conservation Comes First!

    Proposal to Close All Seafood Harvests in Coastal Waters From Mendocino
    to Caspar
    Salmon fishing excluded....

    At last night's Mendocino Ocean Community Alliance meeting in Fort
    Bragg, Bill Lemos, the NRDC consultant who wears a hat by a different
    constituent user group each time he appears anywhere to speak about the
    MLPA, and who has been instrumental in both slowing the MOCA group's
    ability to accomplish anything from the onset, continues now to rush to
    submit a MPA external array proposal of 'their' own and rejects
    community discussion!

    Each group within MOCA that is preparing an external array for the
    Tri-County workgroup, has brought their array up for discussion at MOCA
    meetings. The last MOCA meeting was held in Albion. Maps were drawn by
    ocean seafood providers. At the nearly 4 hour meeting, almost 30 people
    were present and conversed with each other. Lemos left before the
    meeting was half over.

    At last night's meeting Bill Lemos cut short any discussion by saying
    "discussion is not an agenda item" while pressing everyone to move
    forward, and rejected the group's offer to come to Albion on this
    Saturday with most MOCA members to hammer out agreements on external MPA
    arrays.

    Albion Harbor Regional Alliance has been hosting the digital Marine Map
    efforts to complement efforts by Local Ocean Food Providers to find
    acceptable common ground with Underwater Park Advocates who have their
    own agenda, not necessarily marine life protection in it's orientation.

    Last night's proposal by Bill Lemos speaking on behalf of the NRDC,
    Sierra Club, and Conservation First! is big! It closes access to seafood
    harvested in coastal waters from Mendocino to Caspar. All forms of
    extractive use would be banned except Salmon fishing. The closure as
    planned, is a SMR from the mouth of Big River north to Caspar, with a
    SMCA component to allow Salmon fishing.

    Tomas DiFiore
    Bill Lemos' nomination to the RSG ... http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/pdfs/ncrsg/lemos.pdf

    Since they haven't announced RSG members yet, I don't think it is too late to write an email to the MLPAComments@resources.ca.gov stating you do NOT support his nomination. Refer to this article ... http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/201...5/18634351.php

    And make the point that this article is an example of Bill Lemos being unable to meet the following criteria contained the the Request For Nomination for the RSG.

    3. Willing to express fundamental interests (as opposed to fixed positions) and to clearly convey the interests of one or more stakeholder groups,
    4. Capable of working collaboratively, seeking to integrate the interests of the full range of constituencies,
    -Allen

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    Can these fuckers be stopped....I mean how a privat group can tell the rest of us you can't fish because we said so ?

    And what salmon fishing ?
    We can fish for salmon when it's closed WTF???
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    Today I had a good chat with a long time Morrow Bay commercial deeper nearshore guy. Although there are twenty fisherman down there the MPA's have had little affect on their fishery. Stocks are healthy and folks are doing ok. Price per pound hasn't changed since the MPA's. Maybe all this talk is just doom and gloom.

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    Re: NC MLPA ... let the games begin

    Quote Originally Posted by REELEMUP View Post
    Can these fuckers be stopped....I mean how a privat group can tell the rest of us you can't fish because we said so ?

    And what salmon fishing ?
    We can fish for salmon when it's closed WTF???
    Laz, I think they are just regrouping to reek more havoc on the fishermen,they need to find a couple of these "Good ol' Boys"...well I won't go there.They're talking about the 10 day season last year for salmon that produced VERY FEW salmon...just throwing out a tiny bone in case salmon opens up,who knows???THINK POSITIVE brother!!I try my damnest to,but with these pricks,I would'nt be surprised if they did'nt try to open things back up to try to cram more shit at us.I pray that this cannot happen...
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    Re: NC MLPA ... let the games begin

    Quote Originally Posted by DanH View Post
    Today I had a good chat with a long time Morrow Bay commercial deeper nearshore guy. Although there are twenty fisherman down there the MPA's have had little affect on their fishery. Stocks are healthy and folks are doing ok. Price per pound hasn't changed since the MPA's. Maybe all this talk is just doom and gloom.
    If you are a land based abalone diver (no boat), spearfisher, kayak fisher, or shore fisher in the mendo area, this would be taking away the best of the best. We are talking about all of Russian Gulch state park, Mendocino Headlands State Park, and half of Van Damme state park. It's not only about commercial fishers when it comes to economic impacts. In the Mendo area we rely heavily on tourist income from abalone divers. This would cut out an enormous chunk of that area, which has been sustainable fished (abalone) for over 50 years. When you talk closures, it's never simple about who's affected. Ask our local dive shop operator how he would like most of his business shut out.

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    ...and I am sure State Parks was part of forming the proposal. These people make me sick!!

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    Of course Bill Lemos made the RSG.

    More shennigans ... http://www.northcoastjournal.com/iss.../mendo-muddle/

    \"Folks, we've been through this before. We walked out of this meeting before saying, 'We are not here to take your negative input,'\" Lemos said, referring to a meeting earlier this month that ended on less than cordial terms. \"We're here to share with you what our ideas are. We understand that these [changes] will cause you to be less active in the ocean and cause you some economic hardship. We understand that part of it. But folks, these are coming from somewhere, and we are trying to adapt them to places that would have the least impact. Thank you for your input, but I really don't want to be here all night arguing with you. We've done the best we can.\"
    Yup ... he wants to "share", but isn't open to feedback of any kind.

    -Allen

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