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The Dinky Davis - My Shiney Hiney

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With all of the structural work done to the transom it was time to redo the gelcoat. I have never had great results with gelcoat in the past, and I was dreading this part of the job.

My initial efforts this time around also failed miserably. I tried rolling on straight white gelcoat and blending it in with a sander. The match and coverage were both horrible. This was not going to cut it...



I watched a few DVDs and searched the web looking for the "way". Finding the "way", or at least the way I used involved piecing together a bunch of different sources of info. Hopefully, I can make it easier for the next guy by putting it all in one place.

It became apparent that to cover an area of this size and get good results was going to requiring spraying the gelcoat. However spraying gelcoat comes with its own set of issues. Gelcoat is too thick to spray, so it needs to be thinned or "reduced" to be sprayed. Traditionally this was done with acetone, but that left it porous. Later people used styrene, but it eventually yellows.

In my research a number of folks had begun having great results using a product called Duratec. Duratec is really nothing more than really thin, clear resin. It allows it to spray almost like paint, yet still sand etc. just like regular gelcoat. In addition, you can over-thin it to blend in the repair etc. This little video really helped me get a handle on tinting gelcoat to match, as well as spraying and blending using Duratec...



With this new info I was inspired to go for it.

Tinting

I bought some pigment and Leah helped me get the color incredibly close using the simple system in video. If you decide to do this, I can't stress how little pigment it takes to alter the tint. We would add a tiny crumb to the gallon, stir, dab, and assess. It took ten tiny crumbs to tint the gallon. Another great tip is to pour off a small amount of the gelcoat and reserve it, so if it gets too dark, you can add some pure white back in to lighten it.

Spraying

To be spray the gelcoat requires a gun and a compressor. I bought a cheapo gravity feed HVLP gun designed for primer for $40.00. You want to find one with a 2.0 tip to handle the viscosity of gelcoat. Try and select a gun that also has a modest air demand, so you can get by with a moderate sized compressor. I bought a large 110 compressor from Home Cheapo for $380, and another $30 in hoses and fittings.

While this wasn't exactly cheap, it was significantly less than the estimates I got for doing the job, and I would get the the tools to keep. A good deal IF it worked!

Material and Mixology

This is the stuff to get...



For regular spraying mix these 1 to 1. On the edges where your trying to blend colors you can go 1:3. This will make your gelcoat translucent. This will allow the base color to show thru and make a seamless color transition.

Regardless of ratio you add 20cc's of catalyst per quart of blended material. Another great benefit of Duratec is it allows gelcoat to cure in air without adding a surfacing agent.

Prep and Application

I sanded the transom with 220, washed it, and then cleaned it with acetone. I then masked the areas I didn't want sprayed and went at it...



After the first coat it was all one color!!!



I did a total of 4 light coats. The final coat was pretty shiny and only had minimal orange peel. However the texture didn't match the texture of the rest of the boat so I decided to color sand it.

Sanding and buffing

Color sanding or wet sanding is simple but can be tedious depending of the quality of your starting point. To wet sand, wet the area, the sand paper, and go at it. Wet and rinse your work area and sand paper frequently. It is important to use a sanding block so you don't sand uneven areas into your work. I used a big Durablock to cover a lot of area.

Work your way from 400, to 600, to 800, to 1000, and then 1500. While this sounds like a big deal, it only took me about 2 hours.

After that I buffed it with 3m compound, and then 3m Finnesse it II...



Buffing only took about 45 minutes. The results of the whole process are awesome. The color matches great and the body work looks sweet...



The only down side is it makes the rest of my boat look like shit! Can you guess what I'm working on now?

Updated 11-30-2010 at 02:55 PM by SBD

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  1. JHFish's Avatar
    Dang! Quite the process, looks like the research paid off well. Thanks for the update, it's really coming together! Does this mean you are going to spray the rest of the boat????
  2. SBD's Avatar
    Thanks John! Fortunately I don't need to spray the whole boat. The main hull is actually in great shape, it just need to be polished/rubbed out. The hull above the rub rail is beat! I am going to do that area all the way around. Those two things together (rubbing out and spraying) should make this old girl look better than she has in decades.
  3. Sleeter's Avatar
    That looks incredible, Sean. Been waiting for this update. Now I see why it took so long! ;>)
  4. SBD's Avatar
    Lots of head scratching, and enough sanding to feel like the Karate Kid. Hopefully the pace will pick up again.
  5. Chopper's Avatar
    just noticed your blog......I have been sleeping. Damn, looking very sweet Sean. What is your goal ETA? (in a perfect scenario)
  6. SBD's Avatar
    March 2010! Having missed that by a mile I have kind of given up on any time lines and have just tried to enjoy the process and have fun. My biggest constraint at the moment is good old $$$. So while my bank account slowly recharges, I kill time finessing things that could otherwise wait. With 4 kayaks and a pram, its not like I don't have some other way to catch a fish.

    On an up note, we have already begun enjoying the boat. My buddy's wife went aboard one evening to see what this thing was all about, and before long we were all sitting on the rails enjoying cocktails just to be goofy. "Drinks on the yact" are now regular faire after dinner. I have the best wife ever. My neighbors think I'm nuts...and theyre right.
  7. LotsaLuck's Avatar
    Sean, she looks great. Is that an antique buffer. Looks heavy to me. The Makitas are super light. If your going to do the whole boat I'd be happy to UPS one up to you.
  8. SBD's Avatar
    Is that an antique buffer.
    Yes

    Looks heavy to me.
    Good eye...they don't make me like this anyomre because their isn't enough metal left on the planet.

    The buffer back story: One of my board members overheard me saying I was going to buy a buffer. He said you can use mine! He's the kind of guy that won't take "no" for an answer. He has a lot of tools as he used own a body shop...back in the 40s!!! He is 94, and when he whipped this thing out I had to give it a try. He said he got it when he first opened so its at least 60 years old. Pretty amazing that it still works, but I going to still buy a modern one.

    Thanks for the offer though!
  9. K.Z.'s Avatar
    Nice update... your Gelcoat job really looks great. Way to go figuring out the recipe for a successful gel coat experience.

    Drinks on the yacht... that's a good one. Don't get a new buffer... when you're done with the polishing you'll have big pipes to go with the sweet boat.
  10. SBD's Avatar
    The buffer is downright primitive, and the amount of tape on the cord appear to outnumber the amount of insulation. If you saw it in person your inner safety officer would be throw red flags like crazy.
  11. steveO's Avatar
    Sean, heheheheheheh, I have one just like it . I did metal work for a living for a long time. Yep metalwork means painting and polishing too. Don told me about the new Makitas so if I ever need one I'll hock my snapon buffer.....SteveO Nice job your doing though with antique stuff....
  12. SBD's Avatar
    Don is so reeeEEEEeediculously nice he shipped me one of his Makitas to borrow for the rest of the boat. I don't think he couldn't could stand watching my low-dollar maritime version of the "Woodright's Shop".
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  14. ravensblack's Avatar
    Looks great Sean. I havent been keeping up with the progress. Fantastic! We used those older metal case buffers a while ago but for doing flat surfaces from the top they are the shizzle. No pressure needed. So.......................................... are you doing the rest now? see you at Albion?
  15. SBD's Avatar
    Doing all the way around above the rub rail. I will be there, mailed my check today.
  16. ravensblack's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by SBD
    Doing all the way around above the rub rail. I will be there, mailed my check today.

    SIC!
  17. LotsaLuck's Avatar
    You were right on the border of that generation Sean. Had to bring you back up to date. Have fun, it's looking great.
  18. SBD's Avatar
    Thanks again Capt. Don!
  19. SBD's Avatar
    The data is IN! I weighed the buffers this am just to satisfy my curiosity:

    Old school: 13 pounds 6 ounces
    Makita: 7 pounds 12 ounches

    Close enough to 1/2 the weight to easily feel the difference in hand!!!